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The Other Syntax

Postby Kristopher on Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:48 pm

Did the universe really begin?
Is the theory of the big bang true?
These are not questions, though they sound like they are.
Is the syntax that requires beginnings, developments
and ends as statements of fact the only syntax that exists?
That's the real question.
There are other syntaxes.
There is one, for example, which demands that varieties
of intensity be taken as facts.
In that syntax nothing begins and nothing ends;
thus birth is not a clean, clear-cut event,
but a specific type of intensity,
and so is maturation, and so is death.
A man of that syntax, looking over his equations, finds that
he has calculated enough varieties of intensity
to say with authority
that the universe never began
and will never end,
but that it has gone, and is going now, and will go
through endless fluctuations of intensity.
That man could very well conclude that the universe itself
is the chariot of intensity
and that one can board it
to journey through changes without end.
He will conclude all that, and much more,
perhaps without ever realizing
that he is merely confirming
the syntax of his mother tongue.
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Syntax

Postby Mornings Sun on Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:56 pm

Wiki says this about Syntax
(I had to call on her help to understand you... and that did not help.. alas)

In linguistics, syntax (from Ancient Greek σύνταξις "arrangement" from σύν syn, "together", and τάξις táxis, "an ordering") is the study of the principles and rules for constructing phrases and sentences in natural languages.

In addition to referring to the overarching discipline, the term syntax is also used to refer directly to the rules and principles that govern the sentence structure of any individual language, as in "the syntax of Modern Irish."

Modern research in syntax attempts to describe languages in terms of such rules. Many professionals in this discipline attempt to find general rules that apply to all natural languages.

The term syntax is also used to refer to the rules governing the behavior of mathematical systems, such as formal languages used in logic. See Syntax (logic); Computer-programming languages; Syntax (programming languages).

Though there has been an interplay in the development of the modern theoretical frameworks for the syntax of formal languages and natural languages, this article surveys only the latter.


Don't get you point. IS this something that you home made AI came up with, after you feed it with poetry?
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Re: Syntax

Postby Kristopher on Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:40 pm

Mornings Sun wrote:
Don't get you point. IS this something that you home made AI came up with, after you feed it with poetry?


Pffft. I'm not that creative. It's from Carlos Castaneda's book, The Active Side of Infinity.

Take it up with him if you have issues with it.

:t1
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Re: The Other Syntax

Postby Mornings Sun on Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:41 am

Carlos please explain yourself!
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Re: The Other Syntax

Postby Kristopher on Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:15 pm

Mornings Sun wrote:Carlos please explain yourself!


Perhaps look within, not with-out.

Dig into his words - what do they tell you? What's the meaning, the message?
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Re: The Other Syntax

Postby Mornings Sun on Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:48 am

Further wrote:
Mornings Sun wrote:Carlos please explain yourself!


Perhaps look within, not with-out.

Dig into his words - what do they tell you? What's the meaning, the message?


That last syntax there. What is the fundamental essence in it?

That meaning and message can be found?

I go for meaning based in ....
'its over clouded and a bit rainy today - I will take the waterproff jacket on when I go out'
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Re: The Other Syntax

Postby serendipity on Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:57 am

Words are not, that which they attempt to describe.

Its easy to be seduced by words, and to imagine that, we know what we are talking about, when, in fact, we only know about words. :ofc

See?
Comforting, all-inclusive, theories/philosophies, reek of wishful thinking. The human capacity for self-delusion, is well documented. Understanding is very limited. Perception, it seems, is not. The unknown, does not, yield to rationality.
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