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Slaying the Buddha

Postby Gonzo on Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:58 pm

If you meet the Buddha, slay him.

Hm. It turns out Lin Chi said this and a whole lot more which actually conflicts with my own preferred understanding of this statement. Here's his commentary, from Wikipedia:

Wikipedia wrote: Followers of the Way [of Chán], if you want to get the kind of understanding that accords with the Dharma, never be misled by others. Whether you're facing inward or facing outward, whatever you meet up with, just kill it! If you meet a buddha, kill the buddha. If you meet a patriarch, kill the patriarch. If you meet an arhat, kill the arhat. If you meet your parents, kill your parents. If you meet your kinfolk, kill your kinfolk. Then for the first time you will gain emancipation, will not be entangled with things, will pass freely anywhere you wish to go.[2]

Those who have fulfilled the ten stages of bodhisattva practice are no better than hired field hands; those who have attained the enlightenment of the fifty-first and fifty-second stages are prisoners shackled and bound; arhats and pratyekabuddhas are so much filth in the latrine; bodhi and nirvana are hitching posts for donkeys.[3]

Obviously he was not opinionated.

I think what he's talking about is our own notions, however, it seems to me the exhortation applies as well to anyone wanting to be acknowledged as a Buddha/patriarch/arhat/parent/kinfolk. Perhaps most especially parents. Sort of a two way street...that is, we learn the labels, then have the roles filled at times, first by parents. And it takes a while to find and to forgive their feet of clay. Parents start out as Gods initially. The same thing might well happen with Buddha's and arhats, and all the rest...we learn the labels and perhaps someone fits, for a while, but Lin Chi is telling us its all bullshit. Slay the bastards. Interestingly, he said nothing about lovers.

I love his last line:" ...bodhi and nirvana are hitching posts for donkeys." - Yee Haw....
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Re: Slaying the Buddha

Postby Red Heart on Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:07 pm

I think slaying the Buddha is where its at....the very reason we are all Buddha. For if we are all the same, then none are special, all one, all truth is welcome once it is slain.
Galileo Galilei: "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."
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Re: Slaying the Buddha

Postby Gonzo on Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:37 pm

Maiveeta wrote:I think slaying the Buddha is where its at....the very reason we are all Buddha. For if we are all the same, then none are special, all one, all truth is welcome once it is slain.
That's a cool way to look at it...sorta brings The Buddha down to earth, as well as all the other spiritual adept titles.
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Re: Slaying the Buddha

Postby Affinity on Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:30 am

The Lin Chi quote from Wikipedia is what I've always understood "Slaying the Buddha" to mean… or in other words Slay your Conditioning.
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Re: Slaying the Buddha

Postby Gonzo on Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:40 am

...as well as questioning everything you've been taught as Rose and McKenna have urged.
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