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Let me first say that I'm not attempting to convince you of anything. Just some comments....
Gonz: "The nagual is not me. It is something I can access, something I can be aware of, something I can experience, but it is not me."
Zam:
This comment of yours touches on the very base of what it is we're discussing. "The nagual is not me." Who are you? What are you? If you knew this I doubt you'd be commenting here. So, if you don't know who you are, how can you state that something is not you?
Gonz: "I am a being of thought."
Zam:
Thought is a part of who you are, IMHO.
Gonz: The nagual is whatever it is, and in all of Castaneda it is defined as a thing external to us, a force of sorts, and in my estimation, having nothing to do with enlightenment.
Zam: External, internal, is there a difference? This is another key point. What IS 'out there?' What about the Universe as a mirror? One says internal. Internal where? Your body? Your brain? Your MIND? (This was a huge teaching of Juanito that was missed.)
So CC described something 'external.' (I don't see it that way, but whatever.) If you can't experience either the nagual or enlightenment, how do you know they are not related? Yes, I will go out on the limb and state you have not experienced either.
Gonz: "It's possible to surrender to the nagual, but that is not enlightenment. Enlightenment to me is something quite personal...it is something I do, for me, not for anyone or any thing else."
Zam:
Surrender to the nagual. <chuckles> More belief structure. You are the 'thinking guy,' aren't you? Personal? You're damned right it's personal. What isn't?
Experiencing either Nagual or Enlightenment is different than understanding it. Understanding comes after the experience. You've got the cart before the horse my friend. Become and experience enlightenment or the nagual, then come tell us of your understanding.
Or not.
We can just discuss it.
Discussion is good. Words are words. They can be Power itself, or nothing at all.
Or not.
Thinking is a marvelous tool. Have you used thinking in recappitulation and autolysis to actually experience enlightenment?
...or are we just going to discuss 'what we think' enlightenment is?
K