transition

[shamanka]

I had a thought or two after a conversation yesterday with a good friend, experiencing the same transition that is affecting me. this may or may not be helpful or accurate for this group , now or in the future, but I thought I would share for your pondering...especially as I haven’t posted for ages.

Regarding this ‘transition'....symptoms. Months of Depression, pointlessness, no will to act/be/do anything. Feelings of no purpose. Aloneness, no connections, old connections crumbling. Not being heard, by people you know really well. Self doubt. Anxiety attacks. Panic. Sense of overwhelming or drowning. Acute awareness of the discrepancies and schemes under peoples actions, even on a global scale. No insight, no sight, no visions, no dreaming capabilities. Old skills disappearing. The feeling that humanity should be destroyed or sort out their own shit quick. No compassion, no desire to change.

if we are experiencing the quantum/the nagual or the oneness of antimatter, then all would be seen and felt as the observer to the beings of humanity and the 'chaos of potential' huh?

Really there would be no point or attachments or will to act in that, unless we felt the 'heart path' reach out to us to act....from the potentiality of all to acting a role, significantly called for in this reality.

The downside of this transition, as far as I can gather, is that the interaction with our 'fellow man' cannot be heard by them at our frequency 'jump'. we have gone out of range. this leads to our feelings of separation, uselessness and pointless existence. our aloneness in the 'void' of creation is so unlike anything experienced before. however this would tally, with the experience of the 'now' and the 'end of time' as suggested by the Maya etc.

Until more people experience this for themselves which ultimately, would lead to only heart centred action , as no one would have the will, do be involved in anything else...individual will in this space is annihilated.

I guess we have to learn to reach out to each other, at the same level, to communicate effectively and be heard.
we would be starting to work as a quantum tribe here on earth. maybe that’s the ‘point‘....the only ‘point’ to support each other living quantumly on the earth...the more we interact the bigger and stronger that point will grow and develop...a group consciousness ...it seems we are familiar with the concept. its just we’ve all shifted and some of our old acquaintances haven’t....

it really is the god self/spirit stance. Unbias and non judgemental, only prompted to act by a heart centred cry from the ‘external‘. our personalities serve no purpose here and so therefore they have been stripped back.
if this is correct, then the attachments in this realm we hold on to, would seem potent, especially heart centred ones.
if we stop focussing our attention on the heart centred ones, then you would be detached in what would seem like an endless ocean of chaotic possibility, observed as anything not heart centred..ie we feel we are drowning in a sea of overwhelming pointlessness.

Conscious multidimensional consciousness to conscious quantum consciousness.
all possible in the now through heart centred intentional direction when its prompted.

becoming empty is the root of many philosophy....you would be filled, with all that sea of chaos, if you are not aware of becoming your own 'point' or assemblage point in a quantum sea.
you become the ‘point’ on which possibility is focussed.

will vs. quantum.. used to be ‘something’ in the ‘everything’
now walking the ‘nothing’ in the ‘everything’.

Reality, is plucking the strings creating for the sake of others as they are still in the 'something'
the urge to interact with this realm becomes more overwhelming and focused as the attachments to the old become fewer.
we become more responsive beings, than initiators, even more so than usual, as people who cannot reach you, wont interact. We will be seen as the 'point of truth' or they will be observed by us, as being swamped in their own chaos.

The initial phase is confusing as seemingly everything crowd in on you...as you field of something has collapsed. seem to be drowning in all possible outcomes with nothing solid to 'hook' onto. this seems to overload the body, as the mind fights to regain and remain in control.

The next phase is integration things are placed into an order or perspective of highest priority or attachment
these attachments should be evaluated and placed into two categories. to drop or not to drop. you’ll know what to drop...anything that is not heart centred.
deal with the drop pile first. all of them. nothing matters unless you give it any power, and the only power you want to be giving it is heart centred. anything else will swamp you with confusion or others chaos. then look at the ones 'not to drop' re-evaluate again.
third phase I have been told kicks in when the non attachment has tipped the balance.
I don’t have much on this third phase, as I haven’t done all of my own 2nd phase...lol.
However, I am told that soul connections will become a lot more obvious. soul groups and mates will become attracted. to concentrate on the heart and soul of something rather than the discrepancies....if you cant concentrate on own heart and soul desires.
if you do concentrate on what is wrong..you get filled with the chaos again. if you are connected on a soul level with something you are going to feel everything and this will urge you to act. intense and spontaneous. action makes tension subside.
ok that’s it. Trust it may at least be the foundation of understanding of what’s happening. I wish and trust this is useful to you my friends...

[Kristopher]

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Interesting. You begin with, “”I” had a thought or two,” then moves into, “”If “we” are transitioning,” then it goes, “If “you” do not concentrate on….”

This is how many posts go, beginning as a personal encounter mostly steeped in self pity, then grouping together as ‘we,’ because heaven knows each of us are not ‘alone’ in this, everyone must be encountering this, then the sagely egoic advice in regard to, ‘you’ need to do this and that, because after writing for a paragraph or two we must give out some advice because we know better than all the rest.

Sham, you are a friend and a fine woman, so I’ll tell you straight up what I see based on this post and chat: Personal history, self importance, ego. The issues, from what I’ve seen, stem from two issues: The failure of your big get-together, and the failure of the Ireland gig. No worries, failure are one of our greatest opportunities and teachers. Then you mentioned in chat your emotional grasping of your ex-husband Ray. You spun it a different way with different words, but it doesn’t matter; it is what it is, emotional attachment steeped in Fear.

In chat you’ve softened just a bit, the ability to at least not have the knee-jerk re-actions to suggestions and that’s good. With this flowery post though, it seems you’ve done nothing with it. It reeks of ‘other-world-sagely-energetic-practice-and-advice,’ but if I were you, I’d just drop the façade.

This all comes down to what’s mentioned above: Personal history, self importance and ego. You mentioned in chat one day, “I coach the Life Coaches,” in regards to another comment. Really?

This reminds me of a couple of my favorite situations that were discussed yesterday. The marriage counselor who doles out sagely advice, yet he or she themselves have been divorced several times and can’t get along in a relationship. Or, as I’m in the health & wellness profession, those who promote health and wellness, yet I see them sneaking a smoke out back or are overweight or obese.

In my humble opinion of course, it would do you well if you’d just take a very hard look at yourself. Drop your preciousness of your ‘self’ and all the titles you label yourself with, such as spiritual advisor, nagual woman, life coach teacher, etc., etc.

Again, you are a fine person and I don’t want you to end up like TPN, Della, the laughing stock of the spiritual community, or whatever one wishes to label it. A sad, lonely person filled to the brim with personal history, self importance and ego, who when encountered in person is obviously not at all like the ‘image or mask displayed’ via all the sagely advice on the Internet. It’s clear and obvious to look at, no ‘seeing’ required.

You, right now, have the perfect opportunity to drop all of this, as does everyone else. ‘Draw a line in the sand’ so to speak and cut the crap. Or not. It’s your choice, it’s your responsibility.

Kris

[Kristopher]

Well, that didn't take long. An E-mail I'm my inbox from TPN telling me I'M the laughing stock, bla, bla, bla. The usual defense of self.

The same with Sham in chat today.

Why defend, react when poked? Why make excuses, complain, bitch and whine when you are told you are full of shit?

Personal history, self importance and ego.

Hey now, everyone already knows I'm an asshole full of shit. Why react to lil' ole' me?? Do I threaten you that much with a few simple words?

Wow, I must be Powahful!

Kris

[shamanka]

yeah im full of shit, full of personal history, ego, self importance and self pity

tell me something i dont know.

g suggested i wrote my ramblings down, he offered here. i did. it wasnt for anyone to acknowledge, although you chose to.

thanks for your imput.

your power is always evident, i dont always understand why you use it they way you do, but then im not you..i havent walked in your shoes...

[ndn]

Shamanka, I have been there. I have been in a state in which I could check off each of the feelings (or lack thereof) that you have described. I have to wait it out. It has passed before, so I hope that it will pass again. Eventually it has lead me to a new perspective and direction. These "new directions" used to last a year or two. Now they last 8-10 years. I am on the cusp of a change now, but for some reason, do not feel as bad or as lost as I have in the past. Kris has offered me the same advice. I have not taken it. It may be good advice for me, but I am not ready to admit it yet. Part of my reticence is do to my love of my inventory/history. Much of it was shitty, but it makes me the me I know and can handle. A new me is probably needed but the fear of the unknown keeps me in one place, stuck. A smaller part of why I don't take Kris' advice is that it's Kris' advice and I don't want to give him the satisfaction. I percieve a perverted smugness in him (I percieve emphisized). He could also be percieved as a nice guy, wants to help me live better, or a disinterested third party busybody. Doesn't matter. the most stinging part of his remarks to me, revolve around his pointing out that if I have nothing to defend, why do I get ryled, or deffencive? That guy burns my ass because he may be right. Fucker.
Walk easy, Winyan. I wish you (and Kris) only wellness and good things. ( I don't think Della feels the same).

[Kristopher]

( I don't think Della feels the same).

Ndn and others, I’ll ask you to please refrain from using the word ‘Della’ here on YAW. As she watches this board like a hawk, each time her name is mentioned she E-mails both John and me within hours.

As I’m sure everyone here knows, both John and I are very sensitive, and Della’s nasty E-mails hurt us deeply. Each time we receive a nasty E-mail we cry a river for weeks on end.